The Forbidden University
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In Iran, higher education is an impossible dream for Bah·íÌs, the countryís largest religious minority. Denied access to universities, they risk everything to study in secret. THE FORBIDDEN UNIVERSITY is a visually striking documentary that reveals the underground world of the Bah·íÌ Institute for Higher Education (BIHE) - a hidden network of teachers and students who defy persecution in pursuit of knowledge.
Blending intimate interviews and painterly rotoscope animation, the film follows former BIHE students now living in exile. Niknaz fought for BIHE accreditation at Berkeley but can never return home. Tolou was sentenced to prison for teaching biology. Shakib endured solitary confinement in Evin Prison. Neda studied in makeshift basement labs under constant threat of raids. And Iqan survived years of imprisonment and torture simply for wanting an education.
Their stories reveal the resilience of a community that transforms kitchens into classrooms, smuggles textbooks across city lines, and risks imprisonment to learn. At once a thriller and a meditation on the cost of knowledge, THE FORBIDDEN UNIVERSITY is a powerful testament to the courage of those who struggle for education.
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Bah·íÌ Faith; Academic Freedom; Human Rights in Iran; Religious Persecution; Censorship; State Repression; Underground Education; Youth Activism; Political Prisoners in IranKeywords
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[news reporter #1] The end of
Iran's monarchy came early today
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when Khomeini's followers
took control of the palace
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of the Shah.
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[news reporter #2]
Ruhollah Mousavi Khomeini,
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the Ayatollah becomes the bearer
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of hope for all those
who are against the Shah.
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In the end, the Shah
is defeated.
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The Ayatollah is
victorious and with him,
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Islamic fundamentalism.
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[news reporter #3]
Iranians continue to vote today
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on the new Islamic constitution.
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[news reporter #4]
As the international community
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begins to re-engage with Iran
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and trade and diplomatic
links are re ignited,
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Iran citizens are hoping
for a new era of prosperity.
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Among them are Iran's
350,000 Baha'is
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persecuted by the current regime
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throughout their history,
living as second-class citizens
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in their homeland.
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[news reporter #5]
One of the world's newest
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and fastest
growing religions,
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however, many people still have
never heard of Baha'i religion.
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Millions of people around the
world have converted to it
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because of its message
of unity and community.
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[news reporter #6]
The Baha'i religion
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was founded in 1844 in Persia,
which is present-day Iran.
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Followers believe in the
oneness of all world religions,
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and since its founding, it's
spread to nearly every corner
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of the planet.
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[news reporter #7]
Baha'u'llah's revelations
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resulted in a lifetime of
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persecution and imprisonment by
Persian and Ottoman authorities.
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[news reporter #8]
(speaking foreign language)
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- Among the leaders, we had
a good number of them.
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We had agents of
America, Israel.
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[interviewer]
And they were executed?
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- Oh yes. We had a Muslim also.
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People who are Baha'i
are executed.
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- Our next speaker will
speak about Baha'is and their,
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the challenges they have in
seeking an education
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or getting jobs,
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living a normal life once
they reach a certain age
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to enter certain vocations.
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I want to introduce to you this
beautiful woman who is sitting
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to my left, Niknaz Aftehi,
who was a former student at the
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Baha'i Institute for
Higher Education,
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where she studied architecture.
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She currently lives in
California and received an
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advanced degree in
architecture at UC Berkeley.
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And given her excellent
results and performance there,
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UC Berkeley has now opened its
doors to other students coming
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from the Baha'i Institute.
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Growing in a Baha'i
family in Iran
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as a child and teenager,
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you are always worried that when
the time comes for your higher
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education, if the university
and Iran's colleges
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are open to you or not.
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The time came and doors to
all universities in Iran
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were closed to me.
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I studied at the BIHE,
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the Baha'i Institute
for Higher Education,
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which is an informal institute
set up by the community,
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in response to the
government's campaign to deprive
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and ban Baha'is from
entering universities.
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Studying at BIHE
and being a BIHE student
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is very challenging.
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Students are always living with
this feeling of uncertainty,
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because you never know if
your university will be there
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tomorrow or not.
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I never knew if my professors
will be arrested tomorrow
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or not, so the fear
always exists.
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I am the second generation
of Baha'is who are facing
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the systematic denial
of education.
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BIHE students don't study for
the degree because they know
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that with the
degree they receive,
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there is no guarantee for
them to find a job in Iran.
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They study because
they love to learn.
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And professors don't teach
because of getting credit
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or financial compensation,
but they teach
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because they love to teach.
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And not only that, but they
put their lives in line.
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I was born a few years
after the revolution.
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I think from the very
beginning, my family,
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like my parents,
went through a lot.
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I always remember
a happy childhood,
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although when I'm coming
back to that time,
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I kind of feel like it
was really a time of
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like horror and terror.
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And it's a kind of my, the way
of my mind to forget the memory
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that hurts me
or that we're not happy.
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My father was part of the
entrance exam of the BIHE.
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Me and my brother were helping.
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So we had a key for it, which we
match on the correct exam.
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It was so much fun.
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[laugh]
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The concept of fear
was always with me
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from the very start, the first
year of the school.
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I did not want to go to school,
because I already knew
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that I did not belong.
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I wouldn't mingle with others
because I knew that there is
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something that
shouldn't be said.
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There's something that
should be feared from.
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At school, we had a teacher
and he used to tell us stories
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of how they killed and they
massacred and they tortured
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Baha'is in their cities.
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The students would
laugh and again,
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no one knew that I was Baha'i.
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My parents was adamant that I
should get higher education.
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I already knew that there is
no hope for me for any higher
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education other than BIHE,
but I was happy.
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I knew two things.
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First, I have an option.
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Second, this option is better
than what I had in the past
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from normal education.
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I was born a year after the
Islamic Revolution.
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My father used to be an engineer
in the control tower
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of the Tehran airport.
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And a few months
before I was born,
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he was fired for being a Baha'i.
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Education was quite valued in
our family and I always loved
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science, specifically biology.
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I was born in Qashan, it's a
city at the centre of Iran,
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but I grew up in Qarmashah,
at the west of Iran.
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I remember that the first time
they came to our house, when I
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was very young,
there were many agents.
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They were searching everywhere.
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I was worried that they
might take my parents as well,
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or even myself when I got older.
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And I was thinking when
I was in high school,
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I really loved my country.
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And the main reason that I'm
studying and I wanted to go to
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university was because I
wanted to render service
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to the country.
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Despite all the
challenges that you have
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as a Baha'i growing up in Iran,
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I mean, I have all these like,
fond, beautiful memories.
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Three sisters,
wonderful mom and dad.
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My dad has two master's
degrees, one from Iran,
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one from Georgia
Tech here in the US.
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And he had a good job.
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And when the revolution
happened, he was expelled.
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I was born in Shiraz, Iran.
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And I studied in the same
city all throughout my
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elementary school, high school,
and then university,
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that was basically interrupted
by the Cultural Revolution.
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When the revolution broke
in 1979, they closed
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all the universities throughout
Iran in order to Islamize.
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In this reopening
of the university,
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then all the Baha'i students
were denied re-entering
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the university.
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And I was one of them.
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With the rewriting
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of the constitution in 1979,
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and again Baha'is
being left out,
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there was no
protection whatsoever.
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You were a Baha'i, you were out.
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The entrance examination that
happens throughout Iran every
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year became that gateway to
control and prevent
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Baha'is from entering any
university in Iran.
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[typewriter]
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Initially, you had to check
off one of the religions
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that were mentioned in
the constitution.
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Islam, Christianity, Judaism,
and Zoroastrian religions.
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They realized that
this is a red flag.
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It changed to you have a
defect in your application
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without really defining what
that defect was.
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Now, due to
international reaction,
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they say you have to declare
that you do not belong to any
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unlawful groups.
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So the forms have changed.
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The verbiage on those
forms have changed.
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But the end result
is still the same.
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No admission.
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The reality is that
nothing has changed,
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but they wanted
to say that, okay,
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we don't ask about the religion.
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That year, all Baha'is
were encouraged,
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no matter are you in
university, already in BIHE
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or not, encouraged to
take part in the konkours
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to see how it goes.
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[foot steps]
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I took the test.
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I was a good student.
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But it was always in
the back of my head
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that they will not let me in.
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So probably I will not go to the
universities that everyone goes.
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It ended up, they say
the file is incomplete.
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We couldn't get our marks and
we couldn't select our subject,
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so we never get to there.
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[Dr. Mina Yazdani]
Years after,
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the Baha'i community
could now think about
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what are we going to do with
all these youths that have been
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expelled from universities and
the new generations every year
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that are graduating
from high school.
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[Tolou] So we had classes most
of the time in the homes.
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The professor who taught
biochemistry, Dr. Khwadadadeh,
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we went to his house
and then the biochemistry lab
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was on the basement.
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You felt connected
and united and welcomed.
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[Tolou]
They sacrificed their life
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on the basis of volunteerism.
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It was very risky.
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There were so many people that
did not have any children
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that go to BIHE,
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but they always gave their home.
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Then they cooked for them.
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The concept of service in
a university is completely
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a different realm.
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But really in BIHE,
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these are the basics
for the university.
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[Singing prayer in
foreign language]
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[Dr. Forouzan Golshani]
This is what the word
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Constructive Resilience
means to me at least.
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When I first heard this phrase,
I did not realize how closely
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it embodied what's
happening here.
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[Shakib] They created a
sophisticated system of network.
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A local person would
receive the assignment,
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handed it over all by
hand to someone else.
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This person would
take it to Tehran.
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At a certain time, a certain
day, they would all organize.
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Then the instructor
would review it,
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with comments,
sent all the way back.
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That system exists.
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Imagine that happening
to every city
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and little cities in Iran.
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For exams, where would
you have the exams?
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At the home of
another Baha'i, right?
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Sent to all these
centres across Iran.
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For just the exams to happen
at a certain time and with
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honesty, with standards.
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And imagine at that time there
were five, six faculties,
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several programs, several
cohorts at different years
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going through this.
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The number and the coordination
that it takes on a scale that I
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think is unprecedented.
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[Neda] When I started, it was
the first year that they decided
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to have biology.
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At least two of the profs
that were non-Baha'i,
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they completely know about
the BIHE and the concept
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that they would be coming in,
teaching to Baha'i students
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who were deprived of
higher education.
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And if they were arrested,
that would be the real end
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for their career
and potentially their lives.
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I still remember that day that
this prof came to the class
00:17:58.626 --> 00:18:01.268
with a big black garbage bag.
00:18:01.292 --> 00:18:05.602
And he opened the garbage bag
and it was full of
00:18:05.626 --> 00:18:08.959
random human bones.
00:18:10.542 --> 00:18:13.226
In order to provide
material for his course,
00:18:13.250 --> 00:18:16.894
he had to go back to the
university where he studied.
00:18:16.918 --> 00:18:19.810
As if he was
interested, right?
00:18:19.834 --> 00:18:22.518
Because he needed
those to teach us.
00:18:22.542 --> 00:18:28.375
00:18:55.042 --> 00:18:57.518
[Neda] Because he was in such a
hurry when he was taking the
00:18:57.542 --> 00:19:02.268
bones, he couldn't pay attention
to what he was doing exactly.
00:19:02.292 --> 00:19:06.643
So we had, for example, collar
bones from the right side,
00:19:06.667 --> 00:19:11.643
but the shoulder bone from the
left side and the arm bone from
00:19:11.667 --> 00:19:12.518
the other side.
00:19:12.542 --> 00:19:13.810
So nothing would match.
00:19:13.834 --> 00:19:19.042
00:20:00.209 --> 00:20:02.685
[Neda] And it's a nightmare for
any medical student to learn
00:20:02.709 --> 00:20:04.393
the anatomy of the skull.
00:20:04.417 --> 00:20:06.518
He managed to grab one skull.
00:20:06.542 --> 00:20:09.351
That skull...
00:20:09.375 --> 00:20:11.560
had defects in it.
00:20:11.584 --> 00:20:13.602
The shapes were
not quite right,
00:20:13.626 --> 00:20:16.310
but that was the only
thing that he had.
00:20:16.334 --> 00:20:17.727
[students] Ohh, uhmm....
00:20:17.751 --> 00:20:19.685
[Neda]
Funny, funny at the same time.
00:20:19.709 --> 00:20:24.125
00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:52.226
[Iqan] I applied to be admitted
in sociology in BIHE.
00:20:52.250 --> 00:20:55.143
Although I was really
good at physics and maths,
00:20:55.167 --> 00:20:58.143
but I decided to do sociology
because I thought maybe
00:20:58.167 --> 00:21:01.976
social science would be
more useful for Iran,
00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:04.852
and sociology is one
of the majors
00:21:04.876 --> 00:21:07.959
that can help people actually.
00:21:08.792 --> 00:21:12.018
Hundreds of students were
coming to Tehran with an address
00:21:12.042 --> 00:21:15.852
on a paper to go to a place
that they didn't know
00:21:15.876 --> 00:21:17.351
where they are going.
00:21:17.375 --> 00:21:21.101
Usually, BIHE was functioning
in a way that it helped all the
00:21:21.125 --> 00:21:25.226
students from different towns
to come to Tehran for a very
00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:28.709
intense period, like for a week.
00:21:30.375 --> 00:21:33.602
It was a bit difficult to be
on the bus for ten hours
00:21:33.626 --> 00:21:39.375
to get all the lessons you need
and to go back again.
00:21:46.125 --> 00:21:49.143
Tehran is very huge
and it's confusing.
00:21:49.167 --> 00:21:51.560
And at the time there
wasn't Google Maps.
00:21:51.584 --> 00:21:56.268
When I arrived at the bus
terminal for the first time,
00:21:56.292 --> 00:21:59.000
I was thinking,
"Where should I go?"
00:22:07.209 --> 00:22:11.417
In Karmasha, I never
faced heavy traffic.
00:22:12.584 --> 00:22:14.852
I remember the first time
that I wanted to attend
00:22:14.876 --> 00:22:19.560
my BIHE class, I arrived with
a two and a half hours delay.
00:22:19.584 --> 00:22:23.810
The Poonak building,
two floors of it were rented
00:22:23.834 --> 00:22:26.292
by the Baha'i community.
00:22:27.751 --> 00:22:29.518
It was the first time
for me to experience
00:22:29.542 --> 00:22:32.727
that I'm going to a university
with a building at least.
00:22:32.751 --> 00:22:39.209
It wasn't in the dining room
or like the kitchen of a house.
00:22:47.751 --> 00:22:52.435
The cafeteria was used by
everyone in the building,
00:22:52.459 --> 00:22:53.935
Baha'is and non-Baha'is.
00:22:53.959 --> 00:22:58.602
And you could see how students
are getting together and they're
00:22:58.626 --> 00:23:00.185
associating with each other.
00:23:00.209 --> 00:23:02.351
[students]
Hey, hello...
00:23:02.375 --> 00:23:03.935
[Iqan] It was really easy to
understand that,
00:23:03.959 --> 00:23:07.185
Okay, there are a group of
Baha'is and they're laughing,
00:23:07.209 --> 00:23:09.435
they're smiling.
00:23:09.459 --> 00:23:12.894
And some of the students,
they weren't thinking that they
00:23:12.918 --> 00:23:16.459
were deprived of higher
education anymore.
00:23:18.375 --> 00:23:23.643
But it didn't take a long
time for the BIHE to lose that
00:23:23.667 --> 00:23:30.351
building as well, because it
was a Baha'i institution.
00:23:30.375 --> 00:23:35.310
[foot steps]
00:23:44.042 --> 00:23:46.518
[Niknaz] The time came
for me and I couldn't go
00:23:46.542 --> 00:23:50.000
to any university in Iran.
00:23:50.417 --> 00:23:54.894
Even Iranians, not all of them
know about what Baha'is have
00:23:54.918 --> 00:24:00.518
gone through and specifically
this educational discrimination.
00:24:00.542 --> 00:24:03.727
Because education
for Baha'i families,
00:24:03.751 --> 00:24:07.018
academic education
is so important.
00:24:07.042 --> 00:24:09.018
When I was a student at BIHE,
00:24:09.042 --> 00:24:12.018
I was working on
different projects.
00:24:12.042 --> 00:24:16.101
So we usually need some
precedent studies and some
00:24:16.125 --> 00:24:18.268
similar projects to look at.
00:24:18.292 --> 00:24:20.935
Sometimes I would go to
university libraries
00:24:20.959 --> 00:24:24.143
to access resources.
00:24:24.167 --> 00:24:27.375
00:24:28.250 --> 00:24:32.018
BIHE students don't
have any student ID.
00:24:32.042 --> 00:24:36.250
So we basically don't
exist as students.
00:24:38.667 --> 00:24:43.542
00:25:05.125 --> 00:25:11.042
[Niknaz] All you need is a book
and you're banned from it.
00:25:13.542 --> 00:25:16.185
The classes were
in people's homes.
00:25:16.209 --> 00:25:20.018
It was just normal
apartment buildings.
00:25:20.042 --> 00:25:24.685
So you had to be extra cautious,
because you didn't want
00:25:24.709 --> 00:25:28.250
to attract attention.
00:25:31.250 --> 00:25:35.018
You would potentially see some
motorcycles, because if people
00:25:35.042 --> 00:25:38.685
were followed, they were
usually followed by people
00:25:38.709 --> 00:25:41.852
who were on motorcycles.
00:25:41.876 --> 00:25:45.226
[motorcycle drives past]
00:25:45.250 --> 00:25:47.727
Potentially they would
be the agents
00:25:47.751 --> 00:25:49.518
of the intelligence services.
00:25:49.542 --> 00:25:54.018
Many of our friends have been
arrested by those or have been
00:25:54.042 --> 00:25:56.584
kidnapped by those.
00:25:57.167 --> 00:26:01.059
If we saw, for example,
another student at the door,
00:26:01.083 --> 00:26:03.125
we would wait.
00:26:07.250 --> 00:26:07.976
[motorcycle drives past]
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:13.459
People would hesitate whether
we should actually go in or not.
00:26:14.167 --> 00:26:16.018
[Dr. Forouzan Golshani]
Most people refer to BIHE
00:26:16.042 --> 00:26:17.976
as an underground university.
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.518
Maybe it is underground,
but it is very well known
00:26:20.542 --> 00:26:21.976
by the Iranian government.
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.935
And it's something that the
government has tried to suppress
00:26:26.959 --> 00:26:30.459
ever since its inception.
00:26:30.709 --> 00:26:32.101
[Dr. Mina Yazdani]
A confidential memorandum
00:26:32.125 --> 00:26:37.852
that was signed by the Supreme
Leader, Khamenei, leaked.
00:26:37.876 --> 00:26:41.310
The memorandum was
on Baha'i question,
00:26:41.334 --> 00:26:41.935
what to do with Baha'is.
00:26:41.959 --> 00:26:46.685
And from that point, it became
official government policy.
00:26:46.709 --> 00:26:49.976
Their progress must be blocked.
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:53.810
If it is known that
somebody is a Baha'i,
00:26:53.834 --> 00:26:55.852
they should be
expelled immediately.
00:26:55.876 --> 00:26:59.018
This memorandum shows
you what the plan
00:26:59.042 --> 00:27:01.059
of the government has been.
00:27:01.083 --> 00:27:04.268
As Baha'is, we obey the law of
government, when it comes to
00:27:04.292 --> 00:27:09.101
something that is our
principles, like education.
00:27:09.125 --> 00:27:11.768
Sorry, we are not going to obey.
00:27:11.792 --> 00:27:17.101
[Shakib] In the NGO that I used
to work at, at that time,
00:27:17.125 --> 00:27:22.310
as a counselor, I was sitting
at that day with a client.
00:27:22.334 --> 00:27:27.375
00:27:31.959 --> 00:27:33.518
[Shakib]
A colleague ran through.
00:27:33.542 --> 00:27:34.560
This does not happen, right?
00:27:34.584 --> 00:27:38.310
You are not supposed to open
the door while a psychotherapy
00:27:38.334 --> 00:27:39.185
session is going on.
00:27:39.209 --> 00:27:41.310
00:27:41.334 --> 00:27:44.018
[Shakib] I felt something
go through me,
00:27:44.042 --> 00:27:46.268
I realized something
bad has happened.
00:27:46.292 --> 00:27:51.209
00:28:37.918 --> 00:28:39.852
[typing on keyboard]
00:28:39.876 --> 00:28:40.518
[Shakib] I was scared.
00:28:40.542 --> 00:28:42.018
I was like,
"Maybe my home has been raided."
00:28:42.042 --> 00:28:46.518
My house was always the centre
of a lot of activities, classes.
00:28:46.542 --> 00:28:49.834
There were so many names.
00:28:51.667 --> 00:28:53.459
I ran home.
00:28:53.542 --> 00:28:59.083
We started grabbing things,
everything that could be burnt.
00:29:00.209 --> 00:29:02.810
00:29:02.834 --> 00:29:05.685
[Shakib] And you waited.
00:29:10.709 --> 00:29:11.226
[birds chirping]
00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:14.560
I learned that all the homes
of all my colleagues,
00:29:14.584 --> 00:29:16.334
they were all arrested.
00:29:16.500 --> 00:29:19.518
And they had
confiscated everything.
00:29:19.542 --> 00:29:21.268
[fire crackling]
00:29:21.292 --> 00:29:27.018
I would receive randomly
calls with no caller ID,
00:29:27.042 --> 00:29:28.101
threatening me.
00:29:28.125 --> 00:29:36.417
[phone rings]
00:29:42.626 --> 00:29:44.685
[Dr. Mina Yazdani] What is the
goal of the persecution
00:29:44.709 --> 00:29:45.476
of the Baha'is?
00:29:45.500 --> 00:29:49.435
They want Baha'is
to convert to Islam.
00:29:49.459 --> 00:29:53.059
(suspenseful music)
00:29:53.083 --> 00:30:00.185
Iran is a country in which the
majority of Muslims are Shias.
00:30:00.209 --> 00:30:03.685
And then we have
10 percent non-Shias.
00:30:03.709 --> 00:30:09.435
Out of that percentage,
then we have Sunni Muslims.
00:30:09.459 --> 00:30:17.143
And then we have Baha'is as
the larger non-Muslim minority.
00:30:20.751 --> 00:30:24.351
Given what was going on in
terms of the arrest of Baha'is,
00:30:24.375 --> 00:30:28.226
execution, our plate, that is
the university students'
00:30:28.250 --> 00:30:33.852
deprivation of higher education,
really was not such a big deal.
00:30:33.876 --> 00:30:36.894
Now we know that in
its long-term effects,
00:30:36.918 --> 00:30:40.852
that was one of the worst
plans of the government.
00:30:44.584 --> 00:30:48.852
[Dr. Forouzan Golshani] Over
its brief lifetime since 1987,
00:30:48.876 --> 00:30:52.185
the Baha'i Institute for
Higher Education has continued
00:30:52.209 --> 00:30:53.185
its operation.
00:30:53.209 --> 00:30:59.768
And yet there have been multiple
periods of complete shakedown.
00:30:59.792 --> 00:31:03.185
The removal of everything
that the government
00:31:03.209 --> 00:31:05.351
could get hold of.
00:31:05.375 --> 00:31:07.643
[car screeches to a halt]
00:31:11.125 --> 00:31:13.542
00:31:15.209 --> 00:31:20.167
00:31:53.083 --> 00:31:56.560
[Shakib] The regime intended to
shut down the university.
00:31:56.584 --> 00:32:00.101
- We feel that all
our hopes are lost.
00:32:00.125 --> 00:32:02.351
BIHE is going to shut down.
00:32:36.876 --> 00:32:39.018
[Dr. Forouzan Golshani]
There were a series of raids.
00:32:39.042 --> 00:32:43.685
Homes were attacked, ransacked,
property was confiscated,
00:32:43.709 --> 00:32:47.768
and multiple individuals
in connection with BIHE
00:32:47.792 --> 00:32:50.185
were imprisoned.
00:32:50.209 --> 00:32:51.226
[Dr. Mina Yazdani]
In Persian calendar,
00:32:51.250 --> 00:32:58.018
it was the seventh day of the
seventh month of the year, '77.
00:32:58.042 --> 00:32:59.810
Everybody remembers that day,
00:32:59.834 --> 00:33:04.125
and it was an
orchestrated attack.
00:33:05.751 --> 00:33:09.852
They confiscated everything,
and they arrested protesters
00:33:09.876 --> 00:33:13.250
and instructors, all of them.
00:33:14.834 --> 00:33:17.852
[Dr. Forouzan Golshani] This is
well-documented, New York Times.
00:33:17.876 --> 00:33:21.185
They extensively covered the
raids and what the Iranian
00:33:21.209 --> 00:33:25.602
government targeted, and their
objectives in basically trying
00:33:25.626 --> 00:33:30.351
to completely stop
BIHE from functioning.
00:33:30.375 --> 00:33:37.393
[Tolou] It was May 2011,
that the government of Iran
00:33:37.417 --> 00:33:43.852
raided many homes of the people
connected to BIHE.
00:33:43.876 --> 00:33:48.935
They confiscated lots of
whatever belonged to me,
00:33:48.959 --> 00:33:51.685
and then they actually
went a bit beyond.
00:33:51.709 --> 00:33:56.518
They confiscated some of my
parents' personal items as well,
00:33:56.542 --> 00:34:00.685
which was illegal because they
didn't have the warrant
00:34:00.709 --> 00:34:01.101
for that.
00:34:01.125 --> 00:34:06.268
After two days, they called me,
and then they asked me to go to
00:34:06.292 --> 00:34:11.310
a place that is basically
a place for interrogation.
00:34:11.334 --> 00:34:15.435
[Shakib] I received a call, no
caller ID, unknown number,
00:34:15.459 --> 00:34:16.018
[phone rings]
00:34:16.042 --> 00:34:18.852
and they told me I have to
introduce myself to so-and-so
00:34:18.876 --> 00:34:23.560
place, which was a house, safe
house, a place that, you know,
00:34:23.584 --> 00:34:24.602
they interrogated people.
00:34:24.626 --> 00:34:28.351
There were a couple of others
who were being interrogated in
00:34:28.375 --> 00:34:30.643
that room, all Baha'is.
00:34:30.667 --> 00:34:32.643
He was so aggressive with them.
00:34:32.667 --> 00:34:33.768
He would break my heart.
00:34:33.792 --> 00:34:40.125
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.894
[Shakib] And he knew that I
could hear all this,
00:34:52.918 --> 00:34:54.101
but he would play that, right?
00:34:54.125 --> 00:34:57.393
[Tolou] I went there, and there
were already lots of Baha'is
00:34:57.417 --> 00:35:01.018
that I know that they were
all related to, BIHE.
00:35:01.042 --> 00:35:05.393
And they usually ask a question
and also give you a pen
00:35:05.417 --> 00:35:08.959
and paper to write
down the answer.
00:35:11.209 --> 00:35:17.584
00:35:20.209 --> 00:35:26.626
00:35:36.042 --> 00:35:40.810
[Tolou] Some Baha'is like to
write the name of Teheran
00:35:40.834 --> 00:35:43.518
with a different T letter.
00:35:43.542 --> 00:35:46.810
It goes back to the
time of Baha'u'llah,
00:35:46.834 --> 00:35:47.894
the founder of Baha'i Faith.
00:35:47.918 --> 00:35:53.435
So I wrote it that way,
and it made him very angry.
00:35:53.459 --> 00:35:53.935
I'm quite stubborn.
00:35:53.959 --> 00:35:59.852
If someone tells me that
you should do it, order me,
00:35:59.876 --> 00:36:01.268
I will not do it.
00:36:01.292 --> 00:36:02.185
It's not good.
00:36:02.209 --> 00:36:02.685
I'm not proud of it.
00:36:02.709 --> 00:36:06.852
But that's, I think, it was
also an interrogation.
00:36:06.876 --> 00:36:13.167
00:38:12.334 --> 00:38:13.101
[sigh]
00:38:13.125 --> 00:38:16.185
[Tolou]
After three hours with him,
00:38:16.209 --> 00:38:17.476
a second person came.
00:38:17.500 --> 00:38:20.976
And I learned that this
is the way that they do.
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.018
They always have
two interrogators.
00:38:23.042 --> 00:38:26.268
One is frightening,
one is softer,
00:38:26.292 --> 00:38:29.125
but I think that's their trick.
00:38:30.876 --> 00:38:36.560
They had time to look at
whatever they confiscated.
00:38:36.584 --> 00:38:39.768
Lots of pictures that
I had, they printed out.
00:38:39.792 --> 00:38:43.852
All of those pictures were
already on the table
00:38:43.876 --> 00:38:45.518
when I came in.
00:38:45.542 --> 00:38:50.518
They just want to show
that we know a lot about you.
00:38:52.876 --> 00:38:57.393
I think that's really a
psychological game that they do.
00:39:02.709 --> 00:39:07.250
The other interrogator
did not really talk much.
00:39:10.375 --> 00:39:15.626
00:39:51.334 --> 00:39:55.852
[Tolou] But to be honest,
I wasn't afraid.
00:39:55.876 --> 00:40:02.560
I don't know why, but I
wasn't afraid of him.
00:40:02.584 --> 00:40:07.560
And the main point, they were
trying to tell me that I am
00:40:07.584 --> 00:40:12.101
doing an illegal thing
by teaching in BIHE.
00:40:12.125 --> 00:40:18.852
00:40:18.876 --> 00:40:24.852
♪ ♪
00:40:24.876 --> 00:40:28.083
(speaking foreign language]
00:40:31.042 --> 00:40:35.810
[Shakib] I wrote some things
and he also wanted me to write
00:40:35.834 --> 00:40:38.643
about my friends
and I said, "I can't do that."
00:40:38.667 --> 00:40:41.393
You know, you can ask
questions about me.
00:40:43.042 --> 00:40:47.059
It finished and surprisingly
he let me go.
00:40:47.083 --> 00:40:52.226
But after that day, whenever
the phone would ring,
00:40:52.250 --> 00:40:52.852
it would jump.
00:40:52.876 --> 00:40:59.643
[thunder crack]
[phone ringing]
00:41:00.626 --> 00:41:07.185
00:41:07.209 --> 00:41:08.976
♪ ♪
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.685
[Shakib] He asked me to
present myself to Evin
00:41:11.709 --> 00:41:14.685
for another round
of interrogation.
00:41:16.626 --> 00:41:20.185
I knew that there is at least 60
percent chance that we're not
00:41:20.209 --> 00:41:20.727
gonna come back.
00:41:20.751 --> 00:41:24.310
[Tolou] After these questioning,
a third person came.
00:41:24.334 --> 00:41:28.685
And it was obvious that
he's the boss of two.
00:41:39.876 --> 00:41:46.500
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:29.935
[Tolou] But then after a while,
00:43:29.959 --> 00:43:33.018
one of them came
and just says, "You go."
00:43:36.876 --> 00:43:39.768
[Iqan] We got a call telling
us that the same agent
00:43:39.792 --> 00:43:43.059
is around and is
knocking at your door.
00:43:43.083 --> 00:43:49.059
So you might consider not
to return home tonight.
00:43:49.083 --> 00:43:51.018
Because it was near midnight.
00:43:51.042 --> 00:43:54.894
And I was telling my parents
that it doesn't make sense
00:43:54.918 --> 00:43:58.059
for us not to go home because
they know where we live.
00:43:58.083 --> 00:44:01.185
And if we don't
go home tonight,
00:44:01.209 --> 00:44:03.018
they would come tomorrow.
00:44:03.042 --> 00:44:05.018
And the moment we
entered the street,
00:44:05.042 --> 00:44:07.185
I saw two cars
coming towards us,
00:44:07.209 --> 00:44:09.852
one from the back and
one in front of us.
00:44:13.292 --> 00:44:18.709
00:44:26.042 --> 00:44:29.059
[Iqan] But I didn't have enough
time to get into the house
00:44:29.083 --> 00:44:30.018
and close the door.
00:44:30.042 --> 00:44:35.417
00:44:39.626 --> 00:44:42.018
[Iqan] So they took me,
and I couldn't say goodbye
00:44:42.042 --> 00:44:42.560
to my family.
00:44:42.584 --> 00:44:47.143
They started driving for,
I don't know, like 15 minutes.
00:44:47.167 --> 00:44:48.393
And the car stopped.
00:44:48.417 --> 00:44:49.226
I had blindfold.
00:44:49.250 --> 00:44:49.976
I didn't know where I am.
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.185
So they took my hands and they
were whispering something.
00:44:53.209 --> 00:44:55.685
So they took me to
solitary confinement.
00:44:55.709 --> 00:44:58.292
-Ommmfff
00:44:59.542 --> 00:45:01.476
[Attacker] Speaks in
foreign language.
00:45:01.500 --> 00:45:05.018
[suspenseful music]
00:45:05.042 --> 00:45:07.310
[Iqan] It was very scary for me
at the time, because I had
00:45:07.334 --> 00:45:13.476
heard from the news that some
of the detainees that have been
00:45:13.500 --> 00:45:15.018
raped in the solitary
confinement.
00:45:15.042 --> 00:45:19.852
In other words, I had that image
of myself when I was there.
00:45:24.042 --> 00:45:27.059
Nothing happened that night
until the day after that,
00:45:27.083 --> 00:45:29.518
that they started
interrogating me.
00:45:29.542 --> 00:45:35.375
00:46:12.375 --> 00:46:13.894
[smack]
00:46:17.375 --> 00:46:19.518
[Iqan] I was 21 year-old when I
00:46:19.542 --> 00:46:23.643
was arrested and when all
these things were happening.
00:46:23.667 --> 00:46:24.476
[gasp]
00:46:24.500 --> 00:46:28.310
It was a daily interrogation,
a whole day interrogation.
00:46:28.334 --> 00:46:35.125
[groaning]
00:46:40.375 --> 00:46:44.268
[Tolou] They summoned us to
the branch of a court,
00:46:44.292 --> 00:46:46.018
but in Evin prison.
00:46:46.042 --> 00:46:49.852
The truth is, well, when
Baha'is go to the court,
00:46:49.876 --> 00:46:55.518
they already have an
idea of what may happen.
00:46:55.542 --> 00:47:01.727
So we prepared ourselves with my
lawyer that we tried to convince
00:47:01.751 --> 00:47:06.852
the judge, which his
name was Ozzie Morisset,
00:47:06.876 --> 00:47:08.518
which is the judge
for many Baha'is.
00:47:08.542 --> 00:47:13.351
So we already knew that he's not
a soft judge and he usually gave
00:47:13.375 --> 00:47:17.143
the highest years of punishment.
00:47:17.167 --> 00:47:21.351
There are so many lawyers in
Iran that accept to be the
00:47:21.375 --> 00:47:25.685
lawyer of the Baha'is with all
the consequences that they may
00:47:25.709 --> 00:47:27.852
have and they already had.
00:47:27.876 --> 00:47:35.042
00:48:16.709 --> 00:48:17.727
[Tolou] I mean,
these courts,
00:48:17.751 --> 00:48:22.310
you're not there to
provide evidence.
00:48:22.334 --> 00:48:24.435
They already set up their mind.
00:48:24.459 --> 00:48:30.500
00:49:27.459 --> 00:49:29.059
[Tolou]
Trying to think about, okay,
00:49:29.083 --> 00:49:34.351
What I'm going to do with my
life, cause, well,
00:49:34.375 --> 00:49:38.018
if I get the sentence then
eventually I will go
00:49:38.042 --> 00:49:40.852
to the prison.
00:49:40.876 --> 00:49:41.852
Do I want this.
00:49:41.876 --> 00:49:44.042
What do I want for my life.
00:49:49.709 --> 00:49:56.125
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.268
[Iqan] One of them told me
that you were going home
00:50:00.292 --> 00:50:03.518
and I was thinking this is done.
00:50:03.542 --> 00:50:06.518
00:50:06.542 --> 00:50:07.768
[Shakib]
And I was at the airport.
00:50:07.792 --> 00:50:11.226
I had blindfold, but even
from the light of the streets,
00:50:11.250 --> 00:50:13.185
I could see.
00:50:13.209 --> 00:50:16.018
There were two agents with me.
00:50:16.042 --> 00:50:19.250
00:50:20.125 --> 00:50:25.834
[Iqan] They put also a handcuff
on my hands for the first time.
00:50:27.542 --> 00:50:31.101
I didn't know at the time that
I'm going to be taken to Tehran,
00:50:31.125 --> 00:50:34.351
just so I knew that I'm
going to be on a flight.
00:50:34.375 --> 00:50:36.518
And they were telling each
other that this guy is a bit
00:50:36.542 --> 00:50:39.018
different, although
they were whispering,
00:50:39.042 --> 00:50:41.125
but I could hear them.
00:50:43.250 --> 00:50:45.185
I didn't know why I am there.
00:50:45.209 --> 00:50:49.042
That was the main
question I had.
00:50:52.709 --> 00:50:57.185
I could see when the plane was
landing that it is Tehran from
00:50:57.209 --> 00:51:02.143
Azad-e-Tovar, and I understood
they are taking me to Tehran
00:51:02.167 --> 00:51:03.685
for further interrogations.
00:51:03.709 --> 00:51:05.894
And things became
more scary for me.
00:51:05.918 --> 00:51:09.792
I was thinking, oh my God, why
they are taking me to Tehran?
00:51:11.042 --> 00:51:16.602
And I was thinking maybe one
piece of puzzle for them is just
00:51:16.626 --> 00:51:19.250
to arrest some Baha'is.
00:51:20.417 --> 00:51:22.685
[Neda] Each time it happens,
it's horrible.
00:51:22.709 --> 00:51:28.059
Each time that
hopes are crushed.
00:51:28.083 --> 00:51:29.101
It's like horror movie.
00:51:29.125 --> 00:51:33.935
You expected something horrible
and you bought the ticket
00:51:33.959 --> 00:51:36.351
and you would expect
to be horrified.
00:51:36.375 --> 00:51:37.685
But you always jump.
00:51:37.709 --> 00:51:41.185
[Shakib]
I said goodbye to my wife.
00:51:41.209 --> 00:51:45.834
It was a difficult moment.
00:51:50.709 --> 00:51:56.083
00:52:27.500 --> 00:52:32.584
[Shakib] They want you
to feel unsafe, right?
00:52:38.459 --> 00:52:41.351
[suspenseful music]
00:52:41.375 --> 00:52:44.351
[Shakib] They stripped off
all of the clothes
00:52:44.375 --> 00:52:45.768
and the guy who was
00:52:45.792 --> 00:52:49.810
looking at me as I was
stripping off the clothes said,
00:52:49.834 --> 00:52:53.476
"What is your crime?"
00:52:53.500 --> 00:52:57.727
And I said,
"I teach psychology."
00:52:57.751 --> 00:52:59.268
He knew that
this is not right.
00:52:59.292 --> 00:53:01.334
I could see it in his eyes.
00:53:03.542 --> 00:53:09.685
And from that moment point,
we went to our own cells.
00:53:09.709 --> 00:53:10.310
which was very--
00:53:10.334 --> 00:53:14.185
I had prepared myself for it,
but it was very...
00:53:14.209 --> 00:53:16.226
it felt lonely when
I went there.
00:53:16.250 --> 00:53:18.894
[door crashes closed]
00:53:18.918 --> 00:53:21.059
[suspenseful music]
00:53:21.083 --> 00:53:22.351
[Shakib] To the
best of my ability,
00:53:22.375 --> 00:53:25.435
I tried to engage
myself in my cell,
00:53:25.459 --> 00:53:27.976
[sigh]
so I don't go crazy.
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:33.310
[suspenseful music continues]
00:53:52.042 --> 00:53:57.334
On the wall you could see a
lot of hand written notes.
00:53:57.751 --> 00:54:01.059
And they were by people
from across the world.
00:54:01.083 --> 00:54:03.018
And I wondered some
of them could have
00:54:03.042 --> 00:54:06.476
been for Zahra Qasim,
the Canadian photographer from
00:54:06.500 --> 00:54:11.500
Montreal who was tortured to
death in that same prison.
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:15.685
[scream]
00:54:15.709 --> 00:54:21.542
00:54:23.083 --> 00:54:26.792
[Shakib] I tried to cope.
00:54:29.459 --> 00:54:32.143
Your identity is there.
00:54:32.167 --> 00:54:33.351
[thunder crack]
00:54:33.375 --> 00:54:35.727
I don't need to hide it anymore.
00:54:35.751 --> 00:54:37.351
[water dripping]
00:54:37.375 --> 00:54:40.101
[Shakib] The moment that
you're in it finally.
00:54:40.125 --> 00:54:42.101
There's calmness
in that point.
00:54:42.125 --> 00:54:44.935
It's finally there.
I'm there. I'm here.
00:54:44.959 --> 00:54:47.685
You can do whatever
you want with me.
00:54:47.709 --> 00:54:49.518
[sigh]
00:54:49.542 --> 00:54:53.792
I was not a child anymore
to be always scared.
00:54:55.542 --> 00:54:59.976
[whistling]
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.185
[whistling from outside cell]
00:55:04.209 --> 00:55:16.375
(speaking foreign language
00:55:21.584 --> 00:55:26.143
So they took me with
blindfold walking in
00:55:26.167 --> 00:55:28.685
this corridor, they set us free.
00:55:28.709 --> 00:55:30.894
At that time we
didn't know why,
00:55:30.918 --> 00:55:37.518
but we realized that it
better fit their scenario.
00:55:37.542 --> 00:55:40.518
The scenario was that as
psychologists we were teaching
00:55:40.542 --> 00:55:44.268
our faith, Baha'i faith
to our clients,
00:55:44.292 --> 00:55:46.018
which was absolutely not true.
00:55:46.042 --> 00:55:46.685
I lost everything.
00:55:46.709 --> 00:55:48.727
They made sure
that I lose my job.
00:55:48.751 --> 00:55:51.768
I left Iran at the end of 2012.
00:55:51.792 --> 00:55:54.476
When I arrived in Canada,
00:55:54.500 --> 00:55:56.894
three weeks after that,
four weeks after that,
00:55:56.918 --> 00:56:00.018
my mom received a phone
call from Evin prison.
00:56:00.042 --> 00:56:04.351
They said, "Your son has
a four-year sentence."
00:56:04.375 --> 00:56:09.059
And she laughed at them.
00:56:09.083 --> 00:56:16.751
I never went back,
and I never saw my mom again.
00:56:17.209 --> 00:56:21.351
(sighs)
00:56:21.375 --> 00:56:27.685
(piano music)
00:56:27.709 --> 00:56:33.268
[Tolou] Our family never
planned to leave Iran.
00:56:33.292 --> 00:56:36.894
I had this discussion
with my parents.
00:57:24.083 --> 00:57:25.727
[Tolou]
I've already made up my mind
00:57:25.751 --> 00:57:30.185
that I don't want to go
to prison for five years.
00:57:30.209 --> 00:57:31.935
[sobbing]
00:57:31.959 --> 00:57:35.393
[Tolou]
My plan was going to Turkey.
00:57:35.417 --> 00:57:38.685
I did not want
to go illegally,
00:57:38.709 --> 00:57:44.560
and I had my passport, but the
chance that I will get arrested
00:57:44.584 --> 00:57:45.685
in the airport was high.
00:58:01.042 --> 00:58:04.042
Flight 490 now has landed.
00:59:31.209 --> 00:59:33.685
[Tolou]
They check your passport.
00:59:33.709 --> 00:59:38.643
Most of the time they will put
your name as a person who are
00:59:38.667 --> 00:59:41.959
banned going out of the country.
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.959
00:59:48.709 --> 00:59:51.709
[Tolou] My name was not there.
00:59:53.417 --> 00:59:55.667
So I left.
00:59:57.042 --> 01:00:03.351
I know that I made
up my mind to leave, but...
01:00:03.375 --> 01:00:09.602
I was really angry
because I did something
01:00:09.626 --> 01:00:10.685
that they want me to do.
01:00:10.709 --> 01:00:13.018
And because I'm
that stubborn girl,
01:00:13.042 --> 01:00:16.059
it was not the time
that I wanted to leave,
01:00:16.083 --> 01:00:22.018
especially that like my father
was a bit sick and we were not
01:00:22.042 --> 01:00:24.727
knowing like how it's going.
01:00:24.751 --> 01:00:31.268
And the last thing that he told
me in the airport that like,
01:00:31.292 --> 01:00:36.518
no matter what happens,
don't go back.
01:00:36.542 --> 01:00:37.185
Don't come back to Iran.
01:00:37.209 --> 01:00:43.185
And I told him that, well,
probably I will not able to if I
01:00:43.209 --> 01:00:45.643
can leave, I will not
be able to come back.
01:00:45.667 --> 01:00:51.351
But I understand that
he meant that if I died,
01:00:51.375 --> 01:00:53.185
you don't come back.
01:00:53.209 --> 01:00:55.894
And that happened.
01:00:55.918 --> 01:01:02.518
And yeah, I think it was
the hardest thing
01:01:02.542 --> 01:01:07.518
that happened that like,
01:01:07.542 --> 01:01:13.101
I think I was more like
feel bad that like my mother
01:01:13.125 --> 01:01:19.226
and my brother went through
things and I'm like outside.
01:01:19.250 --> 01:01:24.351
But yeah, I mean, but I know,
but at the same time,
01:01:24.375 --> 01:01:30.852
I know that like, as I told you,
they never told me what to do,
01:01:30.876 --> 01:01:36.185
my mom and dad, but I believe
that both of them were happy.
01:01:36.209 --> 01:01:40.351
When I said that I
decided to leave Iran,
01:01:40.375 --> 01:01:42.852
I think both of
them were happy.
01:01:42.876 --> 01:01:44.685
They never talked about it.
01:01:44.709 --> 01:01:46.768
[sniffles]
01:01:46.792 --> 01:01:53.518
They were happy that like,
I'm out and at least don't think
01:01:53.542 --> 01:02:01.083
about like what will
happen if I go to jail.
01:02:02.375 --> 01:02:08.643
Yeah, May 2014, that I left
Iran for the last time.
01:02:08.667 --> 01:02:10.250
Yeah.
01:02:14.334 --> 01:02:14.685
(Soft music)
01:02:14.709 --> 01:02:19.268
[Iqan] They gave me new
clothes, prisoners clothes.
01:02:19.292 --> 01:02:23.560
And they were beating me for,
I don't know, whatever.
01:02:23.584 --> 01:02:28.685
They asked me to sit on the
chair, answer some questions.
01:02:28.709 --> 01:02:31.768
And again, like they
were beating me.
01:02:31.792 --> 01:02:37.643
And that was the pattern
until the sunset that day.
01:02:37.667 --> 01:02:41.810
And so I could not
sleep that night.
01:02:41.834 --> 01:02:48.894
And until the day 16,
I couldn't call my family.
01:02:48.918 --> 01:02:55.167
So my, yeah.
01:02:56.209 --> 01:03:00.268
So even my family,
they didn't know where I am.
01:03:00.292 --> 01:03:02.894
The interrogators
standing next to me
01:03:02.918 --> 01:03:04.894
when I was calling my parents.
01:03:04.918 --> 01:03:08.310
And he told me,
don't tell them anything.
01:03:08.334 --> 01:03:11.727
I told them I'm fine,
everything is fine.
01:03:11.751 --> 01:03:18.101
And I just asked them if you
are still in care, Masha.
01:03:18.125 --> 01:03:20.226
And I think that was
the wisest question
01:03:20.250 --> 01:03:21.351
I could ever ask.
01:03:21.375 --> 01:03:23.852
And because I couldn't
tell them where I am.
01:03:23.876 --> 01:03:26.018
However, I didn't
know where I am.
01:03:26.042 --> 01:03:30.435
After 72 days, I was
released on bail.
01:03:30.459 --> 01:03:32.602
I was sentenced to five years.
01:03:32.626 --> 01:03:39.768
I asked for appeal,
but the verdict confirmed.
01:03:39.792 --> 01:03:43.101
So if I had left
Iran back then,
01:03:43.125 --> 01:03:45.518
I couldn't return
to Iran anymore.
01:03:45.542 --> 01:03:48.810
And I didn't want
that to happen.
01:03:48.834 --> 01:03:52.560
Because I loved my country,
and I still do.
01:03:52.584 --> 01:03:56.852
And I wanted to stay in Iran
and serve Iranian people
01:03:56.876 --> 01:03:57.393
and country.
01:03:57.417 --> 01:04:02.709
That was all the implications
of the decision to go to prison.
01:04:03.375 --> 01:04:10.310
And I went to prison from 2012
to 2017 for five years.
01:04:10.334 --> 01:04:15.375
It was 1800 days.
01:04:20.417 --> 01:04:23.018
[Dr. Mina Yazdani]
Something that the government
01:04:23.042 --> 01:04:25.518
had never thought about.
01:04:25.542 --> 01:04:28.727
Baha'i professors,
instructors,
01:04:28.751 --> 01:04:33.810
administrators of the BIHE
are in jail.
01:04:33.834 --> 01:04:36.018
Who else is in jail?
01:04:36.042 --> 01:04:40.518
Well, the intellectual assets
of the larger community.
01:04:40.542 --> 01:04:44.143
[Iqan] I was allocated to
the political board,
01:04:44.167 --> 01:04:47.351
section twelve
of the Gohar-Prison.
01:04:47.375 --> 01:04:52.685
So that section of prison was
known for political prisoners
01:04:52.709 --> 01:04:54.976
and prisoners of conscience.
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:56.518
Many famous figures were there.
01:04:56.542 --> 01:04:59.727
Different political activists,
journalists, lawyers,
01:04:59.751 --> 01:05:02.852
high-ranked members of
different political parties.
01:05:02.876 --> 01:05:08.518
So suddenly I found myself in
a section of prison with many
01:05:08.542 --> 01:05:10.417
famous people.
01:05:11.209 --> 01:05:14.435
In both sides of the
corridors there were cells.
01:05:14.459 --> 01:05:17.685
16 cells on one side,
16 on the other.
01:05:17.709 --> 01:05:22.393
But we could see each other
and talk to the most famous
01:05:22.417 --> 01:05:23.894
journalists of Iran.
01:05:23.918 --> 01:05:28.976
To have deep, meaningful
conversations with them around
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.268
many principles about
the future of Iran,
01:05:32.292 --> 01:05:35.852
about the rights of minorities,
about the persecutions that
01:05:35.876 --> 01:05:37.518
Baha'is have been through.
01:05:37.542 --> 01:05:39.727
Some of them were
political activists,
01:05:39.751 --> 01:05:43.101
but they didn't know about the
persecutions that the Baha'i
01:05:43.125 --> 01:05:44.518
community has been through.
01:05:44.542 --> 01:05:47.518
Some of them even couldn't
believe that Baha'is
01:05:47.542 --> 01:05:49.351
can't go to university.
01:05:49.375 --> 01:05:54.602
And it was a very
fruitful years, I can say,
01:05:54.626 --> 01:05:56.685
for all these famous people,
01:05:56.709 --> 01:06:00.059
for all these
political activists,
01:06:00.083 --> 01:06:01.185
for them to be with BIHE
01:06:01.209 --> 01:06:02.852
faculty members and
to hear about BIHE
01:06:02.876 --> 01:06:07.976
and why BIHE is created
and what it is responding to.
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:12.018
[Dr. Mina Yazdani] And so,
a scholar, after his release,
01:06:12.042 --> 01:06:18.393
he writes a book on the BIHE,
because he finds it fascinating.
01:06:18.417 --> 01:06:24.894
He finds the reaction of a
persecuted community something
01:06:24.918 --> 01:06:28.334
to narrate for
the world to know.
01:06:31.250 --> 01:06:34.852
[Neda] I exactly remember where
in the house I was standing
01:06:34.876 --> 01:06:38.768
when I heard that
the raid happened
01:06:38.792 --> 01:06:40.518
when we heard the news.
01:06:40.542 --> 01:06:44.751
The blossoms were
at the full blown.
01:06:44.834 --> 01:06:49.059
I love blossoms and I went
pretty much through all the
01:06:49.083 --> 01:06:53.000
seven stages of grief at once.
01:06:53.792 --> 01:06:58.351
I started walking towards
the medical laboratory.
01:06:58.375 --> 01:07:01.435
Dr. Adirion was ahead
of a section of it.
01:07:01.459 --> 01:07:06.351
I went to go see him because his
name was not among the people
01:07:06.375 --> 01:07:08.334
who were arrested.
01:07:13.083 --> 01:07:15.226
He was like, "Ah, Neda!"
01:07:15.250 --> 01:07:17.727
and he smiled at me.
01:07:17.751 --> 01:07:19.018
I started crying.
01:07:19.042 --> 01:07:20.310
I was like, "This is it.
01:07:20.334 --> 01:07:24.101
This is, this is, that's,
that's the end of it.
01:07:24.125 --> 01:07:24.852
That's..."
01:07:24.876 --> 01:07:29.685
He was so calm, always
like softly, you know, spoken.
01:07:29.709 --> 01:07:32.185
He said, "Don't worry.
01:07:32.209 --> 01:07:33.518
Don't be silly.
01:07:33.542 --> 01:07:34.560
It's not going to be over.
01:07:34.584 --> 01:07:37.894
It's not even going to be more
difficult than building it.
01:07:37.918 --> 01:07:42.268
Because we made it the first
time, we all know what to do."
01:07:42.292 --> 01:07:44.560
And his eyes were still,
you know,
01:07:44.584 --> 01:07:48.393
very bright and full of hope.
01:07:48.417 --> 01:07:49.810
And he was right.
01:07:49.834 --> 01:07:51.685
He kept his promise.
01:07:51.709 --> 01:07:54.351
They made it even bigger.
01:07:54.375 --> 01:07:58.435
[Dr. Forouzan Golshani]
Any restriction set on BIHE
01:07:58.459 --> 01:08:04.894
is a loss for the Iranian
society at large.
01:08:07.167 --> 01:08:11.226
Any foreign university has to be
accredited by the government
01:08:11.250 --> 01:08:16.268
of that country before
accreditation agencies will even
01:08:16.292 --> 01:08:17.727
consider them.
01:08:17.751 --> 01:08:21.268
Well, not only Iranian
government does not endorse
01:08:21.292 --> 01:08:27.226
BIHE, it has done everything
in its power to stop it.
01:08:27.250 --> 01:08:32.143
And that is a dilemma for
BIHE at this point in time.
01:08:32.167 --> 01:08:37.334
How to break this barrier
for its graduates.
01:08:38.042 --> 01:08:42.310
The success of BIHE graduates
in various other universities
01:08:42.334 --> 01:08:48.768
around the world, that's a
testament to a very brave group
01:08:48.792 --> 01:08:53.018
of individuals by unsung heroes,
01:08:53.042 --> 01:08:56.185
people whose name
we will never know.
01:08:56.209 --> 01:08:58.602
And they have done something
01:08:58.626 --> 01:09:03.042
that the world has
to stop and watch.
01:09:04.209 --> 01:09:09.018
[Tolou] I've been living in
Canada for about 10 years now.
01:09:09.042 --> 01:09:13.834
Now I'm a post-doctoral
fellow at McGill University.
01:09:14.042 --> 01:09:17.935
[Shakib] When I was set free,
I applied for my PhD.
01:09:17.959 --> 01:09:20.310
A professor at
McGill helped me.
01:09:20.334 --> 01:09:23.059
I left Iran at the end of 2012.
01:09:23.083 --> 01:09:24.810
Right now, I'm a psychologist.
01:09:24.834 --> 01:09:26.852
I live in Montreal.
01:09:26.876 --> 01:09:29.727
[Niknaz] When I was
invited to go to the UN,
01:09:29.751 --> 01:09:35.101
it was the moment that I
realized I have to decide.
01:09:35.125 --> 01:09:38.894
That was the moment that
I thought, if I do that,
01:09:38.918 --> 01:09:44.935
then that means that I'm
losing my chance to go back.
01:09:44.959 --> 01:09:47.351
Maybe this is my
moment of sacrifice,
01:09:47.375 --> 01:09:52.209
that even though it hurts
almost every day...
01:09:57.042 --> 01:10:01.643
You know, I lost my nephew,
01:10:01.667 --> 01:10:08.101
and I couldn't go back to
Iran to be with my sister.
01:10:08.125 --> 01:10:11.351
I lost my grandma, and I
couldn't be there
01:10:11.375 --> 01:10:13.834
with my mom and dad.
01:10:15.459 --> 01:10:21.727
So I dream of Iran not
every night, but every week.
01:10:21.751 --> 01:10:23.518
I think about it.
01:10:23.542 --> 01:10:28.560
Hopefully at some point,
I will be able to go back.
01:10:28.584 --> 01:10:30.643
And that's like my
highest dream.
01:10:30.667 --> 01:10:33.685
You know, one day I fly,
I go there, and I stay,
01:10:33.709 --> 01:10:37.935
and I have all these ideas for
things I'm going to do there.
01:10:37.959 --> 01:10:40.959
So anyways, all these ideas.
01:10:46.375 --> 01:10:49.768
[Iqan] So I applied for some
universities in the UK.
01:10:49.792 --> 01:10:53.310
When I was applying for a visa,
the officer of Home Office
01:10:53.334 --> 01:10:56.351
called me, and he told me
that you've got all the
01:10:56.375 --> 01:10:59.602
qualifications of becoming
asylum in the UK.
01:10:59.626 --> 01:11:03.143
I had to prove him that I
want to go back to Iran.
01:11:03.167 --> 01:11:05.727
I went to prison because
I wanted to stay in Iran,
01:11:05.751 --> 01:11:09.226
and when I shared all this
information with the officer,
01:11:09.250 --> 01:11:10.518
he issued me the visa.
01:11:10.542 --> 01:11:14.185
And I started my master's in
social and political thought
01:11:14.209 --> 01:11:15.518
at the University of Sussex.
01:11:15.542 --> 01:11:19.143
I'm now a PhD candidate at
the University of Cambridge.
01:11:19.167 --> 01:11:22.268
I'm doing intellectual history,
and I have to submit
01:11:22.292 --> 01:11:25.209
my PhD dissertation very soon.
01:11:27.584 --> 01:11:29.185
[Neda] There was a happy ending.
01:11:29.209 --> 01:11:33.518
I received admission from the
University of Ottawa
01:11:33.542 --> 01:11:39.852
to continue my studies in
the field of microbiology,
01:11:39.876 --> 01:11:42.560
immunology, and biochemistry.
01:11:42.584 --> 01:11:46.476
I am a research scientist
at Health Canada.
01:11:46.500 --> 01:11:49.518
I'm the head of the
Food Virology Laboratory,
01:11:49.542 --> 01:11:53.059
and I'm also an adjunct
professor to the Faculty of
01:11:53.083 --> 01:11:55.185
Medicine, University of Ottawa.
01:11:55.209 --> 01:11:57.976
It was an opportunity
of a lifetime.
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:04.226
[uplifting music builds]
01:12:37.542 --> 01:12:38.935
(laughs)
01:12:38.959 --> 01:12:43.101
Neda...
[speaking foreign language]
01:12:43.125 --> 01:12:45.518
-Good!
-Amazing.
01:12:49.209 --> 01:12:51.518
[Shakib] Iqan!
01:12:53.334 --> 01:12:57.685
-How are you.
-It's been a long time.
01:12:58.751 --> 01:13:02.226
Finally, after years,
he became a father.
01:13:08.042 --> 01:13:11.435
- So good to see you.
01:13:11.459 --> 01:13:17.226
[indistinct chatter]
01:13:55.542 --> 01:14:01.602
[film projector]
01:14:01.626 --> 01:14:03.018
[Niknaz] You know,
for a young person,
01:14:03.042 --> 01:14:07.018
you plan your entire future
based on your higher education.
01:14:07.042 --> 01:14:09.685
And when government
systematically takes it away
01:14:09.709 --> 01:14:13.101
from you, it means they are
taking away your future.
01:14:13.125 --> 01:14:14.935
It means you are
losing your future.
01:14:14.959 --> 01:14:17.059
But the beauty of BIHE,
I would say,
01:14:17.083 --> 01:14:21.185
is that the whole community
is working so hard,
01:14:21.209 --> 01:14:26.518
is really trying to
sustain this entity.
01:14:26.542 --> 01:14:31.185
All this persecution
and denials are still strongly
01:14:31.209 --> 01:14:31.894
in place.
01:14:31.918 --> 01:14:36.310
And I see the third generation
of Baha'is that are struggling
01:14:36.334 --> 01:14:41.518
are unfortunately facing
the same circumstance.
01:14:41.542 --> 01:14:46.685
And I would like to
conclude with this.
01:14:46.709 --> 01:14:51.810
As much as I am happy
and grateful for the opportunity
01:14:51.834 --> 01:14:56.518
that I have now to live
and work in the US.
01:14:56.542 --> 01:15:01.185
And advance professionally,
I would love,
01:15:01.209 --> 01:15:03.643
I would love to go back to Iran
01:15:03.667 --> 01:15:09.768
and work in Iran and contribute
to the welfare, economy,
01:15:09.792 --> 01:15:15.727
life and future
of my country, Iran.
01:15:15.751 --> 01:15:18.476
This is my highest desire.
01:15:18.500 --> 01:15:20.351
Thank you.